Howard and Gary Garver

Former Stern Show Interviewer Gary Garver Calls In. 11/16/09. 8:15am
After the break we heard a prank call that Ham Hands Bill made to a flower shop. Fred played the Black Eyed Peas ''Boom Boom Pow'' as they were coming back.

Howard said he had Gary Garver on the phone to talk about something he was doing on the internet. Howard said he likes Gary a lot but he's completely lost. He said that Gary was talking shit about him on some internet show.

Howard said they fired Gary from his freelance job where he went out and interviewed people. Howard said Gary's feelings are hurt and he went out and talked about him and he really resents the stuff he said. Howard said he said some horrible things about him. Gary said he didn't say anything horrible.

Howard told Gary he was going to let him talk about the way he feels. Gary said he loves Howard but he does feel bad about the way they fired him. He said that he worked with them for 18 years. Gary told Howard to tell the truth about this.

Howard said Gary said he was angry about the way they didn't get on the air and talk about why they fired him. Howard said the reason he did that was because generally in that business it's not a good thing to be fired. Howard said out of respect to Gary he didn't mention it on the air. Howard said he loves Gary and he felt the nice thing to do was not to go on the air and talk about why he was fired. Howard said he didn't want to go on and say that he was out of control so that's why he was fired. Howard wanted him to go on with his life and not worry about that.

Gary said he has gone on with his life and he's been fired for a year and a half now. Howard said he thinks that Gary should be hired by another station but Gary says he can't be hired by anyone. He said that no one will hire him now.

Garver said that everyone thinks that he lived in New York and he was a big part of the show but he was never there. Howard said they never said that Gary was there in New York. Gary said he was periodically on the show and that was it.

Howard said he wasn't going to go on the air and talk about him being fired. He said he didn't want to hurt Gary. He told him he was trying to help him. Gary said it didn't work because he can't get hired anywhere.

Howard said Gary was on this internet show talking about him and he had some clips of that to play. Garver was saying that Howard ruined his career. Howard said he didn't ruin his career. Gary said he went out and busted his ass on those interviews. Howard said he knows that, he loves what he did for them. Garver said that he went on for 30 minutes on that show and he knows that Howard isn't going to play it all. Howard played a little more of it and Garver was saying that everyone in the radio business hates Howard's guts. He said that's why he can't get a job.

Garver said that everyone in radio is jealous of Howard and that's why they won't hire him. Howard played more of the audio of Garver going off on him and he was talking about what happened to him and told his viewers to tune out if they didn't want to hear it. Gary said he was buried by Howard when he got fired and he never was good enough to hang out with the Howard Stern people. Garver said that Howard takes care of a few people and he doesn't take care of everyone like people think.

Howard said they worked with Garver on some stuff and they tired to rein him in but things just didn't work out. He said he would never bad mouth Gary on the air and that thing he's looking at as a snub wasn't a snub at all.

Garver said that he put his ass on the line every time he went out and did interviews. He said that no one liked him and what he was doing and he was hated by everyone. Howard said he thinks he did a really good job. He said he thinks that Garver's gripe with him is that he didn't announce that he was fired. Garver said when the interview went down a year and a half ago he was just trying to get some material for the show. Howard said he knows that but he fucked up a few too many times.

Gary said he was being sabotaged by someone and he tried to walk away from it all. He said this guy was trying to get him thrown out of red carpet events and he confronted him that one time and he got suspended for a month. Howard said he was trying to keep him working for them. He said that he didn't want him to get hurt or anyone else to get hurt. He said that Gary could have gotten hurt or he could have hurt someone else. Gary said he did that for 18 years and no one ever got hurt.

Howard said he just wanted to let Gary get his thoughts out on this. Gary said he wasn't done with this stuff because he wanted to talk about this show ''A Day in the Life'' that he says Doug Goodstein stole from him. He said that it was a concept he came up with to follow a porn star around for a day while taping it. He said that he came up with the porn star part of that.

Howard said Gary didn't come up with the concept. He said that following a porn star around with a camera isn't a new concept. Howard said that they have people come to him with concepts that they're already doing all the time.

Gary told Howard he wanted to talk about this without being cut off. He and Howard were cutting each other off but then they were telling each other how much they love each other.

Gary went on to tell Howard that he and Doug Goodstein were talking about doing ''A Day in the Life'' and the show never aired but Doug took it and went out and did this thing with the Wack Packers and used the same name. Doug Goodstein came in and asked who they did that show with. Gary said it was with Miss Howard Stern. Doug said they never did it with a porn star. He said that Gary is out of his mind.

Howard and Doug asked what it was that they did where they stole the ideas. Gary said they did something with the Wack Packers. He said he had the whole thing registered in the Library of Congress. Doug said they didn't do what Gary says they did but they've been doing stuff similar to it for years. He said that it's like doing a documentary or a reality show. Howard asked Gary if he ever saw the day in the life of Ozzy Osbourne. Howard said he came up with that idea. Howard said he went to Ozzy and told him that he should be followed around with a camera and they went out and did that. Howard said he could claim that he came up with every reality show.

Gary Dell'Abate came in and asked Gary why he called Doug a little Jew in the internet show he was doing. Garver said he never said that. Gary insisted he did so Howard played some more audio from that show where Garver threatened to beat Doug up if he sees him again. He said he'd take that little Jew bastard and choke him.

Howard said that they looked some stuff up on the internet and on MTV they did a ''Day in the Life of Nelly.'' He said that he can't be taking credit for coming up with that concept.

Howard said Gary's complaint is that he didn't come on the air and say that he was dismissed. Howard said he's doing that right now. Howard said he happens to like Gary and he was trying to protect him.

Garver asked Howard if he can use him as a reference now. Howard said he could have done that all along. Garver laughed. He said that he was keeping it secret the whole time too. He said he wasn't sure if he was allowed to talk about it. He said he wanted to come back and work for them and he was staying in touch with Tim Sabean all along.

Gary Dell'Abate told Garver that they had to warn him about a couple if incidents and they gave him parameters to stay within and he didn't do it. He said one time he got into an argument with a security guard and that's the kind of stuff they were worried about. He said that Garver would get into arguments with people like that and they were worried that he was going to get into a fight.

Gary said they told Garver to walk away and not provoke people. Garver said he did walk way. Gary said that he didn't walk away because he ended up wishing a gay man got AIDS. Garver said he was just defending himself.

Howard said he was shocked by the tirade he went on and he really doesn't want him to be upset. Garver said he's even more upset now. Howard said he wanted to give him an explanation about why he didn't mention it on the air. He said that's what this call was about. Howard said Gary seems comfortable going around talking about it on these shows now so that's fine and he'll talk about it.

Garver said that Howard was the one who opened up the can of worms with the whole Johnny Fratto and the Tourettes guy going out and doing the interviews. Garver said they won't find someone who can do what he did or what Stuttering John did. Howard said he doesn't have to be mad at the other guys. Gary said he's not mad at them.

Garver asked Howard why he didn't go to bat for him. Howard said he did go to bat for him a bunch of times. He said that they required a certain sensitivity and Gary didn't have that. Howard said he loved the interviews Gary did for them but when someone asks him to leave he just has to leave. He said it's not that important to argue over it.

Howard said he'd rather error on the wrong side and be safe than let him go on and get hurt. Howard said they had to fire him and they thought it would be best to keep it quiet. Gary said he thought he would be able to work for them again some day so that's why he kept it quiet too. Howard said he saw how out of control things were getting and he wanted to talk to him on the air about it.

Garver said he thought that he was going to get the chance to come back to the show. He said that he heard that Howard didn't want him back. Howard said he would love to have him back but he's not sure he can. Garver said he was just doing an act for the guy he wished AIDS on. He said he wasn't really threatening the guy. Garver said he knows he made a mistake but even Michael Vick got a second chance. Howard said there were other, previous, things that they were thinking about too. He said that they just didn't want anyone to get hurt.

Garver said that's fine and they have every right to keep him from working for him. He said that he knows that Howard's name is precious to him and he wouldn't want to hurt him. Howard said he would recommend Gary to other people to work for. He said that he doesn't know if he'd do that with the interviewing part but as a worker he's great.

Garver said he's gone out and done interviews on his own and he's never had a problem. He said he was just trying to get material for Howard and that's that. He said after 6 or 7 times of being kicked out of events he went off on the guy who was behind it. He said the day that Howard announced that Johnny Fratto was doing the interviews he got upset. He said he had a lot of people asking why he wasn't doing the interviews anymore.

Howard said he didn't want to air his dirty laundry on the air and that's it. He said he would have done that if Gary told him to. Garver said that's not true, he said if he had called Gary and told him to tell him to do that, he would have just blown it off.

Garver asked if he could plug his internet TV web site. Howard said he can do that now and he can call in at other times and do the same thing to get some plugs. Garver said you can go to Exscape.TV to check out his stuff. Howard told Gary he loves him and he wishes him all the best. Garver kept talking about why he was upset about the whole thing and Howard kept telling him why he did what he did.

Howard let Gary go and Robin said she still has no idea what that was all about. Howard said he had watched that video over the weekend and he wasn't sure why he was so upset with him either. He said sometimes you just don't know what people want. Howard thought he was protecting the guy but that's not the way Gary saw it. Howard said he thought it might be good for the air today but he really didn't get why he wanted it on the air.

Howard said he's sorry if that bored Robin. Robin said that his points didn't make a lot of sense to her. She said that his ''A Day in the Life'' thing didn't make much sense to her.

Howard said he really wasn't looking to piss Gary off. He felt bad after seeing that video over the weekend. Artie said he saw Gary Garver out in Las Vegas once and he had never seen someone more hung over in his life. He said it was the day after Gary got into a fight with his brother out in Las Vegas. He said it was like seeing Dracula that day and Gary said to him that he looked like shit. Howard said that's when she knew Artie was in trouble back then.

Howard said Gary is a sweet guy and he seemed really pained by the whole thing in that video he watched. He said there were a lot of warnings for Gary and he was really worried about him. He said it may have been too volatile of a situation for the guy.

Artie said that Garver went at the Darth Nihilus guy that one time. Howard said that was actually a great piece of tape. He said Gary has a great body of work that he's done for them. Howard gave him another plug for his web site and wrapped up with that conversation and went to break a short time later.